anglican church

Is this true,that the Anglican church have same rights like Home Office?
I've received information that 3 guys have been legalised by this church (marriage) ,without flying back home!(they were stay here illegally) How could that be?
This question for Brits, who knows what does it mean Anglican Church!

The Anglican Church is otherwise known as the Church of England. It is quite true that when the Government introduced Certificates of Approval as a requirement before those without permanent residence would be allowed to register a marriage in the UK, marriages in the CofE were exempted. This has since been challenged as clearly unfair to other religions (it arose because the CofE has historically been the state church), and the law is now in a state of flux. You would need to get specialist, up-to-date legal advice on this.

Being married to a UK citizen does not give a right of residence in the UK; however, if you are married to an EU citizen who is in the UK exercising an EU treaty right (for example, working), you can apply for an EEA family permit.

In practice, expect any such application to be looked at in minute detail; all the circumstances would suggest to any half-awake Home Office bod that such a marriage was fraudulent; it would seem unusual, to say the least, that the two non-Brits were genuine members of the Anglican church, although a sympathetic vicar might support you. Of course, you would also being drawing attention to the fact of your illegal presence in the UK.

I would guess that the Home Office would look in great detail at whether the EU citizen was really here exercising a treaty right (in continuous, registered employment), and especially at whether the two of you were really in a marriage relationship. Expect investigations to take a few years to conclude. In the meantime, your presence would remain illegal, and you would be liable to removal. If they concluded that it was all a scam, everyone involved (including the vicar!) could be prosecuted.

For God's sake, just get married in Estonia and make life a hundred times easier for yourself.

2007-06-24 15:33:03 by simple one

Holy Trinity Anglican Church, Miniota, MB

Can't you just see that happening as Anglican get more fed up wi the liberalization of the Anglican Church.

Only God knows when this miracle will happen.

"The Catholic Church embraces with hope the commitment to ecumenism as a duty of the Christian conscience enlightened by faith and guided by love…Jesus himself, at the hour of his Passion, prayed 'that they may all be one' (John 17:21)." -- Pope John Paul II, Ut Unum Sint, May 25, 1995.

The Catholic Church in the United States already has the following open dialogs with her sister Churches:

- The North American Orthodox-Catholic Theological Consultation
- The Joint Committee of Orthodox and Catholic Bishops
- The Oriental Orthodox-Roman Catholic Consultation
- The Polish National Catholic-Roman Catholic Dialogue
- The Anglican-Roman Catholic Consultation USA
- The Lutheran-Catholic Dialogue
- Roman Catholic-Reformed Consultation
- The United Methodist-Catholic Dialogue
- Southern Baptist Convention-Catholic Dialogue
- The Evangelical-Catholic Dialogue
- Faith and Order Commission, National Council of Churches of Christ in the USA
- Consultation with the National Council of Synagogues
- Consultation with the Orthodox Union and the Rabbinical Council of America
- Midwest Dialogue of Catholics and Muslims
- Mid-Atlantic Dialogue of Catholics and Muslims
- West Coast Dialogue of Catholics and Muslims

Here is the joint declaration of justification by Catholics (1999), Lutherans (1999), and Methodists (2006):

By grace alone, in faith in Christ's saving work and not because of any merit on our part, we are accepted by God and receive the Holy Spirit, who renews our hearts while equipping us and calling us to good works.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/pontifical_councils/chrstuni/documents/rc_pc_chrstuni_doc_31101999_cath-luth-joint-declaration_en.html

http://www.usccb.org/seia/officialdialogues.shtml

With love in Christ.

2009-02-06 08:20:10 by Black Like A Tar

In other words, why did they try to convert people? The Anglican church is only found in Europe , nowhere else.

Because other countries weren't having problems with the Pope. The Anglican Church, otherwise known as the High Church of England, was the direct result of Henry Vlll's quarrel with the Pope over whether he could or could not get his marriage to Katherine annuled (according to the Catholic church, there was no way to legally divorce. If they were married legally, they had to stay married. If there was an impediment to the marriage, it could be annuled and Henry could re-marry. The problem arose because Henry and the Pope didn't see eye to eye on what the impediment was. Henry said the fact of Katherine's previous engagement was an impediment, the Pope said it wasn't. So Henry established the Church of England (with himself as head) and outlawed the Catholic Church in England.
None of this happened in other countries, and at that period in history, the church was a formidable force. When Henry denounced Catholicism in England, the people were terrified that they would go straight to hell when they died. So he almost had a civil rebellion on his hands as well. Over time, people realized that life continued much as usual, whether the church they attended was called Catholic or Anglican - and the services in both churches was almost the same, so there was very little difference as far as the common people were concerned.
The Anglican church is found around the world and has an active missionary society.

2008-10-05 15:32:15 by annie

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Or would the Anglican (Church of England) need to convert to Catholicism?

Yes.

The Catholic Church allows marriage between Catholics and non-Catholics.

Because the Church recognizes the tremendous challenge that the interfaith couple will face, they may have to get permission from the bishop.

For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, sections 1633-1637: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt2sect2chpt3art7.htm#1633

With love in Christ.

2008-09-03 16:38:06 by Ben B

I need some enlightenment here. I am a secularist, so I don't have the knowledge to understand a particular situation ....

In a certain small town in England, the local CofE church seems to have a very good relationship with two other local religious institutions;-
1. an independent Baptist church (it is NOT in the Baptist Union of Great Britain)
2. a youth-orientated music & mission organisation.
Both the church and the organisation are members of the Evangelical Alliance. The Anglican church has a link to the Evangelical Alliance on its website.

Those three bodies (Anglican church, Baptist church and music/mission organisation) have had, and continue to have, significant involvement in the local community radio station. This participation seems to be co-ordinated by the vicar. However the other local churches (Roman Catholic, Methodist, United Reform, Friends/Quakers) appear to have been sidelined.

My concern is about what I suspect is undue influence over the (supposedly secular) radio station, but I don't understand the evangelical link here. I have heard that CofE churches can be evangelical - does that mean that they have some degree of autonomy within the Church of England? Is it possible that a local Anglican church can prefer to associate with local evangelical churches, even though (theroretically) it works in partnershiup with all the churches in the community? Does all this make sense, or do I just sound like a paranoid, imagining conspiracies all around me?

Any serious advice will be appreciated.

[Evangelical Alliance http://www.eauk.org/ ]

The anglican church is a very broad spectrum ranging from churches that are very evangelical and very similar to baptists and some that are very high in sacramental theology and close to the Roman Catholic Church.

As a broad spectrum it means different churches will have different links in their community depending on whom the priest and the church are more comfortable with.

You are not seeing conspiracies it just seems in your area the anglican prefer to work with the more evangelical end of the worship spectrum. Where I live the Anglican church works in a broad ecumenical context with both roman catholics, pentecostals and chapels though generally it is slightly easy for the anglicans here to work with the Roman catholics purely because the anglican are not overly evangelical.

It does seem that the churches have decided that for them mission is important and more opportunely to use the local radio to do so. This is not i suspect a clandestine approach to mission just an opportunity the churches see in reaching people across the area.

However with anything in the media it is best to listen and consider and if necessary question because ecumenical things work best when there is a mixture of tradition and styles as it encourages all to grow and not to become too narrow in their theology.

I hope this helps.

2008-08-01 22:42:22 by ♫ Rum Rhythms ♫